We just really liked the song. I was never into the whole skinhead thing one side or the other. Would you say your sound changed over the course of the band? We changed from the original lineup. When we first started, we had a guy playing drums named Greg Rankin. He was a friend of Zack from Pro Skates. We got talking and this guy Greg really wanted to jam. When Robert first showed up he was just trying to learn the songs and pretty much did what we asked him.
And he is an incredible drummer. So we got heavier and tighter. When was your first show? We opened up for DPR. There was like one show a month.
If it was metal or punk or anything remotely heavy, everybody went. Which was cool I know you had a demo tape? Was it ever for sale? It came out just as we were breaking up. We played there a lot…at least once a month. For a while there, Donner Party Reunion and us would literally play there two times a month, maybe three…it was a lot! We played with them a lot everywhere. The 2 bands went together. It was fun. That's who we were with on the infamous Moncton trip. Let's talk about that, what happened up there?
We went up to play a show; I can't even remember the name of the place. We went up on a Friday night. We were supposed to play Saturday night and we thought we'd go up a night early and check the place out and just have some fun of it. Anyway we went to the bar next door to where we were going to play.
We walked in and there was a band playing and they seemed pretty good. We are sort of walking around, I remember distinctly pulling Reg off to the side and saying something is not right here, like we are seriously getting stared at and he's like "no, no people don't know who we are it's all good. We went in the bath room, came back out, we're standing there drinking and all of a sudden the band on stage, starts playing a Skrewdriver song.
Which is very racist band and all these guys with shaved head stood up and started put on bomber jackets, covered in KKK patches and nazi symbols. And John and Reg at least were wearing bomber jackets with S. P patches. So you see where this starts going. So anyway we kind of realized things weren't good. The idea was nobody was supposed to go outside by themselves. Immediately after we made this decision, somehow Gord Rob Mills wound up outside by themselves.
And somebody punched Rob in the back of the head and his glasses went flying off. The police got called, we wound up in the back parking lot. There was like 8 of us or something like that. And I think The funny part was Jon Johnson had a bat that he had drawn on with a sharpie and it said S. So back to the van, Jon with a baseball bat in his hand and this group of them wanted to pulverize us. And the police showed up. One of those guys got arrested because he had an outstanding warrant.
We parked the van at the police station for the night and slept in the club that we were going to play. Now the club was attached to the other club that we had been at via one of those glass doors. And they were in there all night drinking after the club closed, playing music.
You could hear them and we're all sleeping on the floor. And about 4 o'clock in the morning the alarm went off, the burglar alarm. So everybody was like going around to the doors with weapons and stuff checking to see if somebody had snuck in. It was a bizarre situation, everybody wanted to go home. Did you end up playing the next night?
Yeah we stayed, we played and absolutely nobody showed up. There might have been 15 people. Deep Woods - Lumberjack Punks (Cassette) pretty terrible.
We made no money, it cost us money to go there. The guy couldn't pay us anything because he didn't bring in anything at the door.
He gave us some free subs for supper. Was there anything else besides the demo? There was another recording done by Jake Evans when he was in the band briefly. It was done on a reel to reel at Jake's place. I haven't seen it in a while but I did have the reel.
I think there were 2 reels actually. Guessing there were 15 to 20 songs on it. Jake could play it on the guitar; it seemed funny at the time. And I know because he had a small studio in his basement for a while when he was living in Spryfield. He's living in this little house across from all these ghetto apartments. Anyway somebody broke in and stole all the gear, including his instruments I think. So yeah that went missing, so we could never get the actual and nothing ever became of it.
I may have even thrown it out a few years ago. I also have recording of the green room show. Oh yeah, yeah I've heard that we've played a few shows at the green room, I like that place. Yeah it was neat with the sunken floor. We play a few shows there; Gord's got one on VHS somewhere.
He lent me a tape that we had of us playing. It was a different one at the green room. We probably had 3 or 4. Yeah that's the one out of Thunder Bay or maybe one of the bands was out of Thunder Bay. I don't know, I got a letter in the mail? We got letters from like Hungary and stuff like that. We are looking for tapes, looking for music and I never sent anybody anything. So terrible, I wrote a couple of people back but we really didn't ever get anything out.
We did have the stuff that was live to the floor for cab can hear. That was at the Double Deuce, we're told not to use it but we did. Obviously I mean Greg hands me, here's a tape, master tape for your show, pick a song and one other compilation.
He's like and I want the tape back, you can't keep all those other songs, obviously we did. Did you play outside of Halifax besides that Moncton show? We played Kentville. There was a small venue in Kentville for a short period of time, but Donner Party had been up the week before us and I not exactly sure what went down. The term " lumberjill " has been known for a woman who does this work, for example in Britain during World War II. Lumberjacks worked in lumber camps and often lived a migratory life, following timber harvesting jobs as they opened.
Lumberjacks were exclusively men. They usually lived in bunkhouses or tents. Common equipment included the axe and cross-cut saw. Lumberjacks could be found wherever there were vast forests to be harvested and a demand for wood, most likely in Scandinavia, Canada, and parts of the United States.
In the U. American lumberjacks were first centred in north-eastern states such as Maine and then followed the general westward migration on the continent to the Upper Midwestand finally the Pacific Northwest. Stewart Holbrook documented the emergence and westward migration of the classic American lumberjack in his first book, Holy Old Mackinaw: A Natural History of the American Lumberjackand often wrote colourfully about lumberjacks in his subsequent books, romanticizing them as hard-drinking, hard-working men.
Logging camps were slowly phased out between World War II and the early s as crews could by then be transported to remote logging sites in motor vehicles. The division of labour in lumber camps led to several specialized jobs on logging crews, such as whistle punk, chaser, and high climber.
The high climber also known as a tree topper used iron climbing hooks and rope to ascend a tall tree in the landing area of the logging site, where he would chop off limbs as he climbed, chop off the top of the tree, and finally attach pulleys and rigging to the tree so it could be used as a spar so logs could be skidded into the landing.
High climbers and Deep Woods - Lumberjack Punks (Cassette) punks were both phased out in the s to early s when portable steel towers replaced spar trees and radio equipment replaced steam whistles for communication. The choker setters attached steel cables or chokers to downed logs so they could be dragged into the landing by the yarder. The chasers removed the chokers once the logs were at the landing. Choker setters and chasers were often entry-level positions on logging crews, Deep Woods - Lumberjack Punks (Cassette), with more experienced loggers seeking to move up to more skill-intensive positions such as yarder operator and high climber, or supervisory positions such as hook tender.
Despite the common perception that all loggers cut trees, the actual felling and bucking of trees were also specialized job positions done by fallers and buckers. Faller and bucker were once two separate job titles but are now combined.
During the era before modern diesel or gasoline powered equipment, what machinery existed was steam-powered, and animal- or steam-powered skidders could be used to haul harvested logs to nearby rail roads for shipment to sawmills. Horse driven logging wheels was a means used for moving logs out of the woods. Another way for transporting logs to sawmills was to float them down a body of water or a specially-constructed log flume.
Log rollingthe art of staying on top of a floating log while "rolling" the log by walking, was another skill much in demand among lumberjacks. Spiked boots known as "caulks" or "corks" were used for log rolling and often worn by lumberjacks as their regular footwear. The term " skid row ", which today means a poor city neighbourhood frequented by homeless people, originated in a way in which harvested logs were once transported.
Logs could be "skidded" down hills or along a corduroy roadand one such street in Seattle was named Skid Road. This street later became frequented by people down on their luck, and both the name and its meaning morphed into the modern term. A specialty form of logging involving the felling of trees for the production of railroad ties was known as tie hacking. These lumberjacks, called tie hacks, used saws to fell trees and cut to length, and a broadaxe to flatten two or all four sides of the log to create railroad ties.
Later, portable saw mills were used to cut and shape ties. Tie hacking was an important form of logging in Wyoming and northern Colorado and the remains of tie hacking camps can be found on National Forest land. In Deep Woods - Lumberjack Punks (Cassette), a decaying splash dam exists near the Old Roach site as well.
There tie hacks attempted to float logs down to the Laramie River for the annual spring tie drives, and the splash dam was used to collect winter snowmelt to increase the water flow for the tie drive. Tomczik has investigated the lifestyle of lumberjacks inusing records from mostly Maine and Minnesota logging camps. In a period of industrial development and modernization in urban areas, logging remained a traditional business in which the workers exhibited pride in their craft, their physical strength and masculinity, and guarded their individualism.
Their camps were a bastion of the traditional workplace as they defied modern rationalized management, and built a culture around masculinity. At the peak in there werelumberjacks; they took special pride in their work.
Logging camps were located in isolated areas that provided room and board as well as a workplace. With few females present other than the wives of cooks and foremen, lumberjacks lived an independent life style that emphasized manly virtues in doing dangerous tasks.
Men earned praise for their skills in doing their work, for being competitive, and for being aggressive. When not at work, they played rough games, told tall tales, and won reputations for consuming large amounts of food.
Bythe business was undergoing major changes, as access roads and automobiles ended residential logging camps, chain saws replaced crosscut saws, and managers installed modern industrial methods. Modern technology changed the job of the modern logger considerably.
Although the basic task of harvesting trees is still the same, the machinery and tasks are no longer the same. Many of the old job specialities on logging crews are now obsolete. Chainsaws, harvestersand feller bunchers are now used to cut or fell trees. The tree is turned into logs by removing the limbs delimbing and cutting it into logs of optimal length bucking. The felled tree or logs are moved from the stump to the landing.
Ground vehicles such as a skidder or forwarder can pull, carry, or shovel the logs. Cable systems "cars" can pull logs to the landing. Logs can also be flown to Deep Woods - Lumberjack Punks (Cassette) landing by helicopter.
Logs are commonly transported to the sawmill using trucks. Harvesting methods may include clear cutting or selective cutting. Concerns over the environmental impact have led to controversy about modern logging practices.
In certain areas of forest loggers re-plant their crop for future generations. A recent Wall Street Journal survey on the best jobs in the United States ended by listing being a logger as the "worst" 3D's job,  citing "work instability, poor income and pure danger ". A Bureau of Labour Statistics survey of America's most dangerous jobs put loggers at the top of the list for
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